From: "Keith F. Lynch" Subject: April TSFS meeting transcript Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2021 16:51:59 -0400 (EDT) Here follows the transcript of April's TSFS business meeting. Emojis were lost or replaced with a single digit. Some "smart" characters were replaced with octal digits preceded by backslashes. It should be obvious from context what those characters were supposed to be, or they can be looked up in a UTF-8 table. If you share this with others, please credit me. Thanks. Please acknowledge that you received this, but please don't email the whole thing back to me. Thanks. ------- Welcome to #april-2021-business-meeting! This is the start of the #april-2021-business-meeting channel. Herveus | Con Ops - 01/17/2021 April 17 at 1pm (Saturday) March 28, 2021 Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration - 03/28/2021 There is now a possibility I won't be able to make the April meeting as scheduled; if Sallie has her second COVID shot scheduled for that date we'll be traveling to get it and I'd be unavailable until about an hour past her shot time. My first shot is scheduled for tomorrow (29 March) so my second won't be before April 19th. I'll keep youse posted. [This turned out to be a non-factor, as Sallie's second shot wasn't even made available until the following Saturday. -Ed.] April 17, 2021 Poryshkin | Con Chair - Today at 12:55 PM Yop! DrGandalf - Today at 12:56 PM T minus 4 Herveus | Con Ops - Today at 12:56 PM Howdy y'all Yakira - Volunteers and Vendors - Today at 12:57 PM I'm here. DrGandalf - Today at 12:57 PM (O.O) [12:59 PM] (-.-) Marilyn Mix - Today at 1:00 PM Hello, everybody DrGandalf - Today at 1:01 PM Somebody turn on the lights. I don't want to get eaten by a grue 1 Herveus | Con Ops - Today at 1:02 PM DrGandalf - Today at 1:02 PM TY Herveus | Con Ops - Today at 1:02 PM YW Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration - Today at 1:02 PM Howdy folks. Adsum Poryshkin | Con Chair - Today at 1:04 PM Dave/Evan, +1, result 6. 1 Herveus | Con Ops - Today at 1:05 PM OK. I see Poryshkin, DrGandalf, Marilyn, Evan, and Yakira. Am I missing anyone? Keith Lynch - Today at 1:06 PM I don't know if I'm officially a member, but I'm here. Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration - Today at 1:06 PM Oddly enough, I got scheduled for my second Covid shot (on Monday), and Sallie hasn't heard back from the county health dept yet for HER second shot. She was supposed to get an email some time this past week. Herveus | Con Ops - Today at 1:07 PM You're attending the meeting. That's what counts. Having attented two meetings, you can request to become a voting member. Keith Lynch - Today at 1:07 PM No shots available yet for us youths here in Virginia. Poryshkin | Con Chair - Today at 1:07 PM My second is scheduled for 27 April Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration - Today at 1:07 PM I think VA opens for 16+ tomorrow or Monday. Poryshkin | Con Chair - Today at 1:07 PM Waiting patiently Herveus | Con Ops - Today at 1:07 PM I get number two tomorrow. Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration - Today at 1:08 PM I hope you mean Monday. We're busy tomorrow! Herveus | Con Ops - Today at 1:08 PM But, to get to the meeting: Let me call it to [what passes for] order. Keith Lynch - Today at 1:08 PM I have mixed feelings about being lumped in with the teenagers, even though I am under 65 (though not by much.) Herveus | Con Ops - Today at 1:08 PM Monday, yeah. Poryshkin | Con Chair - Today at 1:08 PM Are we ready to begin the meeting, or do you want to wait a couple more for stragglers? DrGandalf - Today at 1:08 PM We got Pfizer #2 on March 5 Poryshkin | Con Chair - Today at 1:08 PM Herveus types faster than I do. DrGandalf - Today at 1:08 PM Start, stragglers can read back Herveus | Con Ops - Today at 1:08 PM drinks Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration - Today at 1:08 PM Have we heard from Jim/Blaise? I know he's in the middle of a move, so I don't really EXPECT to see him here today... Poryshkin | Con Chair - Today at 1:09 PM I have not, can't speak for others. Herveus | Con Ops - Today at 1:09 PM First order of business: date for next business meeting. [1:10 PM] We are not required to have one until July, but we can certainly have one sooner if it's merited. Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration - Today at 1:10 PM When's summer v-KWHSS? (Trying to avoid it) Herveus | Con Ops - Today at 1:10 PM Not sure. Yakira - Volunteers and Vendors - Today at 1:10 PM What about con planning meetings? When do we start those? Poryshkin | Con Chair - Today at 1:10 PM I suggest either mid-May, to see what's what before Balticon, or early June, to see what the result of Balticon was, and allow our members to prepare for summer events-Pennsic, Free Spirit Gathering, that sort of thing. Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration - Today at 1:11 PM Pennsic has been postponed until 2022, as of yesterday. DrGandalf - Today at 1:11 PM Only a pseudo Pennsic this year Poryshkin | Con Chair - Today at 1:11 PM @Yakira - Volunteers and Vendors I'll cover that as part of Con Chair report in a few. 3 Herveus | Con Ops - Today at 1:12 PM I'm focusing on the business meeting; programming etc are separate. DrGandalf - Today at 1:13 PM Before Balticon seems a bit soon Poryshkin | Con Chair - Today at 1:14 PM brb, gotta go euphamise Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration - Today at 1:14 PM I don't see anything on the obvious websites for dates for v-KWHSS. There might be something in the Discord channel. I personally expect to be in an area with limited to no Internet the weekend of July 3-4. (I think that's a weekend?) Keith Lynch - Today at 1:14 PM It is, yes. Herveus | Con Ops - Today at 1:14 PM I don't think KWHSS conflicts with June dates. Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration - Today at 1:15 PM But I agree that it might be a good idea to try for a meeting in June to see how things are going post-Balticon.(edited) DrGandalf - Today at 1:15 PM June 12 not good for me. Herveus | Con Ops - Today at 1:15 PM How about June 13 (Sunday)? DrGandalf - Today at 1:16 PM Works for me Herveus | Con Ops - Today at 1:16 PM Any objections to Sunday, 13 June, 1300? 3 [1:17 PM] So let it be written. 1 Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration - Today at 1:17 PM I don't see any obvious obstacles for me for that date+time. DrGandalf - Today at 1:17 PM It has been entered upon the calendar Herveus | Con Ops - Today at 1:18 PM And the channel created. 1 [1:19 PM] I think I'll turn the floor over to Poryshkin for ConChair stuff. Poryshkin | Con Chair - Today at 1:20 PM Ah, excellent, FSG isn't until the next weekend; 13 Junje is good for me. [1:22 PM] Threasurer's report: We have, unsurprisingly, with things so up in the air, no new registrations. But of course, ongoing expenses, mainly in the form of storage space fees. Our accounts show a balance of $9998.23 DrGandalf - Today at 1:24 PM Someone take $1.77 out of petty cash to round that up 1 Poryshkin | Con Chair - Today at 1:24 PM As con chair, the outlook for Chessiecon 2021 is as follows: I heard back from Lee, the sales person at the Lord Baltimore, this morning. their contract with the City runs through the end of June. They do not anticipate a need for renewal of that contract. So, it looks like they will be available for an in-person convention for 2021. Keith Lynch - Today at 1:24 PM Good idea. Transactions just under $10k attract unwelcome attention from the feds. Poryshkin | Con Chair - Today at 1:24 PM Dates are specifically 26-28 November, inclusive. [1:25 PM] We are certainly not going to be the first, or even, the only in-person convention for late 2021. Keith Lynch - Today at 1:25 PM Will the con require proof of vaccination? Poryshkin | Con Chair - Today at 1:26 PM Capclave is planning on a mini-convention in October. DrGandalf - Today at 1:26 PM Discon III is in December Poryshkin | Con Chair - Today at 1:26 PM And Discon III has definitvely decided on an in-person convention for December. Smaller than an average World con, but a Worldcon nonetheless. Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration - Today at 1:26 PM Unless the vaccine moves to a normal authorization and not an EUA, we probably cannot require proof thereof. sigh [1:27 PM] Discon going to be at the Omni Shoreham? DrGandalf - Today at 1:27 PM Yes, /Omni Poryshkin | Con Chair - Today at 1:27 PM Yes on Omni Keith Lynch - Today at 1:28 PM IANAL, but I'm pretty sure anyone can require proof of vaccination for any venue or event. Poryshkin | Con Chair - Today at 1:28 PM I think that being in the middle of the two will most likely affect our attendance, but not greatly, given the usual size of a Chessiecon. [1:29 PM] As far as con policies, I think that at the very least, we should change our Safety policy to require masks. I think that anything more, like proof of vaccination, needs to be negotiated with the hotel-private property for public use,a nd all that. DrGandalf - Today at 1:29 PM The atmosphere of Chessiecon and of Worldcon are rather different, I don't know that they will conflict all that much Keith Lynch - Today at 1:30 PM Masks are incompatible with food and drink. And will be unnecessary if everyone who wants to be vaccinated has been by then. Poryshkin | Con Chair - Today at 1:31 PM Well, yes on the first, but without requiring proof of vaccination,, and even for people who are going to wait until the last minute for a vaccine before going to a convention, still fairly necessary. Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration - Today at 1:31 PM We should have enough time for ages 12+ to have gotten vaccinated by then. I don't know how long it will take to get even EUA for under-12. Herveus | Con Ops - Today at 1:32 PM People who insist on not vaccinating will still be among us. Masks will still be a wise precaution for at least the next year. 2 Marilyn Mix - Today at 1:32 PM I don't think we can say now whether masks need to be required. Depends on the state, and any new virus variants. We will all be getting the routine vaccination by then. Poryshkin | Con Chair - Today at 1:33 PM Dr. Gandalf: it's not "atmosphere" or "focus" for the convention that I think will affect attendance. You're right, they're very different in "look-and-feel" It's sijply the prospect of likely attendees going to multiple conventions in three consecutive months that I think will affect anyone's decision to attend or not. Herveus | Con Ops - Today at 1:33 PM And of course you have to unmask to eat and drink. That's not an argument agains the general requirement. And we don't have to settle that right now, but we should be down in favor of masking at this time. Poryshkin | Con Chair - Today at 1:33 PM @Herveus | Con Ops yEAH, i CAN AGREE WITH THAT IDEA. Keith Lynch - Today at 1:33 PM For whatever it's worth, I have no intention of attending either Capclave or the Worldcon. Poryshkin | Con Chair - Today at 1:34 PM I can also agree with the idea of nuking the caps lock key. 1 Marilyn Mix - Today at 1:34 PM All we can say is that the appropriate precautions will be taken. Herveus | Con Ops - Today at 1:34 PM One would hope that the sorts of people who will come to Chessiecon will be the sort who would be inclined to get vaccinated, but we would be fools to count on that. Keith Lynch - Today at 1:34 PM I hope to attend Chessiecon if I can figure out how to get to Baltimore. (The B30 bus has been discontinued.) 1 DrGandalf - Today at 1:34 PM @Poryshkin | Con Chair Maybe by that time people will be trying to make up for lost time and will want to go to as many cons as they can @Keith Lynch I hope to attend Chessiecon if I can figure out how to get to Baltimore. (The B30 bus has been discontinued.) Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration - Today at 1:35 PM WTF? Poryshkin | Con Chair - Today at 1:35 PM @DrGandalf Could maybe might [1:36 PM] So, anyway, what I'd like to do is to start planning for an in-person convention sometime RSN. Who here would like to be involved, and what conflict scheedules might they have? Keith Lynch - Today at 1:36 PM (The B30 Metrobus was the sole link between the DC Metrorail system and Baltimore's light rail. Possibly I could take MARC, but I've heard claims it requires ID.) Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration - Today at 1:37 PM (B30 bus was how I got from Greenbelt to BWI dammit!) Poryshkin | Con Chair - Today at 1:37 PM @Keith Lynch Last time I used MARC, they had a disclaimer that they can at anytime request ID; but this policy has been in place since time out of my mind, and I've NEVER been asked for ID. Just my ticket. Herveus | Con Ops - Today at 1:39 PM I'm on board. I am expecting to be off to SCA events for about ten days in October and again in November. [1:39 PM] I'm willing to be ConOps. Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration - Today at 1:40 PM For personal reasons, my involvement with convention planning aside from Registration needs to be limited for the next couple-three months. But I am willing to be head of Registration. I am expecting at this time to be off to an SCA event for about ten days in October (same event as Herveus). Herveus | Con Ops - Today at 1:41 PM In the shorter term, I'm likely to be going to Pennsic Lite, but that's still up in the air. Marilyn Mix - Today at 1:42 PM I am willing to take over/help with the web site. I have asked Meg for info, but she has not responded. Poryshkin | Con Chair - Today at 1:42 PM OK, I'll see what I can do to kick her butt about that. Marilyn Mix - Today at 1:42 PM I'm limited with what I can do at the con because of mobility and hearing (especially if people are wearing masks.) DrGandalf - Today at 1:43 PM Not sure I can commit to in person until I see how the world is turning as we approach Poryshkin | Con Chair - Today at 1:44 PM Until further notice, all planning is to be done electronically-Discord, Zoom, e-mail, which ever combinatin works best for the people involved. 2 Herveus | Con Ops - Today at 1:45 PM That's totally sensible. 1 DrGandalf - Today at 1:45 PM I'm good with that Marilyn Mix - Today at 1:46 PM I have been fully vaccinated, so I'm good with meeting individuals in person, if needed. Poryshkin | Con Chair - Today at 1:46 PM Which reminds me-for Balticon, I'd like to have a fan table set-up. If I can get hold of the fan table people there. However, I'm putting in volunteer work for Balticon itself. Is anyone available to sit the Balticon fan table? (Yes, they're also doing Discord for fan tables, I believe) Marilyn Mix - Today at 1:46 PM I can watch the fan table at Balticon. Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration - Today at 1:47 PM I expecct NOT to be available for most of Balticon weekend, which in many ways makes me sad, but life appears to be getting in the way. Poryshkin | Con Chair - Today at 1:47 PM Yay, thank you, but I don't expect that you should be required to full time. Can anyone assist? Marilyn Mix - Today at 1:47 PM @Poryshkin | Con Chair To sign up for a fan table: https://www.balticon.org/wp55/fan-tables/ DrGandalf - Today at 1:47 PM I'll be too busy with Balticon teching for that Herveus | Con Ops - Today at 1:48 PM I think I can help out Poryshkin | Con Chair - Today at 1:48 PM Note: I also intend to make announcements to the staff list, and to the Chessiecon facebook page about people possibly being involved in Chessiecon planning and/or sitting the Chessiecon fan table at Balticon. Marilyn Mix @Poryshkin | Con Chair To sign up for a fan table: https://www.balticon.org/wp55/fan-tables/ Marilyn Mix - Today at 1:49 PM Deadline to request a table is May 15 Poryshkin | Con Chair - Today at 1:49 PM @Marilyn Mix Yeah, I went that route, but have yet to hear back from them. Maybe I should put in a second request, first one might have been missed. It was a while ago. [1:50 PM] So, I think that covers where we are WRT Chessiecon. Anyone have other questions, or something I missed? @Poryshkin | Con Chair @Marilyn Mix Yeah, I went that route, but have yet to hear back from them. Maybe I should put in a second request, first one might have been missed. It was a while ago. Marilyn Mix - Today at 1:51 PM No need, you are on the list. [1:51 PM] Do we have a guest of honor? Poryshkin | Con Chair - Today at 1:52 PM Not officially: I was dithering, pending resolution of virtual/in-person con. Never did hear back from the previous invitee. But the style of convention question has been answered, so yeah, I'm going to jump on that later today or tomorrow. [1:53 PM] The person at the top of the list, BTW, is crud, coughing fit Marilyn Mix - Today at 1:54 PM What? Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration - Today at 1:54 PM I don't think I've ever heard of "crud, coughing fit" as an author or anything... [1:55 PM] (I assume typo of sorts, But also deploying wiseassery.) Poryshkin | Con Chair - Today at 1:55 PM coulnd't type, too much coughing. [1:55 PM] Deonne [1:56 PM] Tracy Deonn, sorry, misspelled her last name. [1:57 PM] She does a lot of YA & femminist-oriented F & S/F Marilyn Mix - Today at 1:58 PM Great. Assuming I get "read into" the web site, I'll talk to you about what you would like on the 2021 web pages. Poryshkin | Con Chair - Today at 1:58 PM Turning the floor back over to Herveus. I need to go get something to drink Herveus | Con Ops - Today at 1:58 PM OK. [1:58 PM] Thanks. [1:58 PM] Anything from Registration? Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration - Today at 1:59 PM Yep [2:00 PM] Secretary's Report: a compliation of what passes as closely for minutes as could be gathered is noe available on https://www.scadian.net/evan/TSFS/ [2:01 PM] As the page states, they are known to be incomplete. Some meetings may not have minutes available anywhere online. Keith Lynch - Today at 2:01 PM As before, I can email a transcript of this or any previous online meeting to anyone here who wants it. Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration - Today at 2:02 PM I would appreciate getting a transcript of this meeting after it's over. I'll put it up in my collection (link above). Thanks. Keith Lynch - Today at 2:03 PM Your email address is unchanged from January? Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration - Today at 2:03 PM Yes, same email addresses still apply. [2:03 PM] I have lamentably not really worked on getting the membership list together. I don't have time to devote to discussing that today. Herveus | Con Ops - Today at 2:05 PM Note to Keith: the bylaws say that to become a voting member, you send your request to the president in writing. [2:05 PM] DM counts as "writing". Keith Lynch - Today at 2:06 PM I'm not sure if I want to be a voting member. I will probably be unable to make it to any in-person meetings, and I expect such meeting will replace online meetings soon. Herveus | Con Ops - Today at 2:06 PM OK. Keith Lynch - Today at 2:07 PM Even before the pandemic, Metrorail had gotten so bad that I basically only rode it for a weekend-long event. Herveus | Con Ops - Today at 2:07 PM And yet, we may continue virtual meetings for some time. These meetings take a bit longer than in-person, but there are advantages for people with hearing issues, in particular. 1 [2:07 PM] Anything else, Dave? Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration - Today at 2:08 PM FWIW, we've had the Discord up even for the in-person meetings before last April, we just hadn't created separate channels. I see no reason we can't do hybrid meetings. [2:08 PM] Anyway, that's it from the Secretary. Turning to Registration, as Poryshkin mentioned we have had no new registrations since the last meeting. Not a surprise. We currently have 74 people rgistered, which are all either rollovers from 2019/2020, or folks who registered for 2021 in advance and got memberships for virtual 2020 thrown in as a bonus. [2:09 PM] Preferably before the end of July, I'd like to be able to have gotten some forward motion on moving primary registration to Square. See #moving-to-square for what I had already posted about that. Poryshkin | Con Chair - Today at 2:10 PM Oh, right, moving to square has completely slipped my mind; thanks for the reminder. Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration - Today at 2:12 PM Exec summary: it should be fairly straightforward. I will reiterate here that I really do need to have access to the whole reg system if we want to do this without heavy involvement from folks who have neither the time nor spoons to devote to it. [2:13 PM] (And yes, I want to do a test run on a test site before we push it to the live reg site, because I may be foolish but I Am Not THAT Foolish.) 1 Poryshkin | Con Chair - Today at 2:14 PM @Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration I am unclear on this issue: what part of the registration do you not have access to at this point? [2:14 PM] I was under the impression that you had full access. Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration - Today at 2:15 PM Cannot edit scripts, cannot directly access the DB. I ordinarily wouldn't want or need to. Poryshkin | Con Chair - Today at 2:15 PM OK, I'll pass that information on to Jo. 1 Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration - Today at 2:17 PM I don't need to directly hand-edit the DB here. I'm thinking more of the ability to make a complete copy of the whole shebang for the purpose of setting up testing, and also having an off-site backup, because Off-Site Backups Are A Good Thing(TM) [2:18 PM] But eventually I, or somebody, will need to change the relevant scripts on the live reg site to replace the PayPal code with the Square code. [2:19 PM] Once it'e been sufficiently tested of course. [2:20 PM] Anyway, unless anyone has questions, that's all I've got for now. Herveus | Con Ops - Today at 2:20 PM OK. Marilyn Mix - Today at 2:21 PM I approve of Dave's approach to integrating Square Yakira - Volunteers and Vendors - Today at 2:21 PM agree Herveus | Con Ops - Today at 2:22 PM Moving along, who is doing Programming now? Poryshkin | Con Chair - Today at 2:23 PM Up in the air, but I can contact people I know, now that things are settled as far as style of convention. I'm not adverse to accepting volunteers, either. Herveus | Con Ops - Today at 2:24 PM OK. Did you have more as Con Chair, Poryshkin? Or should I move to Volunteers and Vendors? Poryshkin | Con Chair - Today at 2:25 PM Move on. Herveus | Con Ops - Today at 2:25 PM Yakira, anything to report? Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration - Today at 2:26 PM (Reg notes that we have two vendors carried over from 2019: 2 tables for eSpec Books and 4 tables for Larry Smith Booksellers) Herveus | Con Ops - Today at 2:27 PM Megan wants me to get two tables... 1 Keith Lynch - Today at 2:27 PM I volunteer to staff the con suite overnight every night, as I have for the past several Chessiecons. (Obviously, this is contingent on my being able to get to Baltimore.) Poryshkin | Con Chair - Today at 2:29 PM @Keith Lynch That's really up to Thomas; con suite is his baby. I'll certainly let him know that you're interested in that position; we dont' have a consuite@ address on the website. Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration - Today at 2:30 PM @Keith Lynch I'm pretty sure that a pickup/dropoff at Greenbelt Metro, at least, shouldn't be difficult to arrange, with a number of folks coming from that direction. (ALthough I may not be among them.) Herveus | Con Ops - Today at 2:31 PM @Yakira - Volunteers and Vendors , anything to report? [2:33 PM] Absent that, does anyone else have anything to lay before the meeting? Or are we done for today? Marilyn Mix - Today at 2:34 PM Can you go over the Action Items, please? Poryshkin | Con Chair - Today at 2:35 PM BTW, I have sent Tracy Deonne the invite, and sent out the "we need a programming head" e-mails. [2:37 PM] DEONN, crap misspelled her last name again. Keith Lynch - Today at 2:37 PM I hope you spelled her name right when emailing her. Poryshkin | Con Chair - Today at 2:37 PM I checked that one carefully, I got it right that time. Marilyn Mix - Today at 2:41 PM I just want to make sure everyone remembers what they are on the hook for in the next few months. 1 Herveus | Con Ops - Today at 2:41 PM Next meeting is June 13 at 1pm. Poryshkin will be contacting potential GsoH now that we've settled on in-person. -- sent Poryshkin will be proceeding with planning for an in-person convention. Poryshkin will poke Jo about giving Dave the additional access he needs to make progress on the shift to Square. Poryshkin will poke Saria about getting Marilyn full[er] access to the web site to manage/maintain stuff. Balticon fan table needs to be acquired/confirmed. With access, Dave will move forward with Square stuff. 1 Yakira - Volunteers and Vendors - Today at 2:41 PM sorry, also managing an Balticon detail right now [2:42 PM] nothing really to report though Herveus | Con Ops - Today at 2:42 PM OK. Marilyn Mix - Today at 2:42 PM I have zero access to the web site code at the moment. Herveus | Con Ops - Today at 2:42 PM I was scrolling back through the chat on my phone to pick out action-like items. [2:43 PM] I think we have it all covered now. [2:43 PM] Absent any further business, a motion to adjourn would appear to be both in order and apt. Poryshkin | Con Chair - Today at 2:44 PM second DrGandalf - Today at 2:44 PM So moved Herveus | Con Ops - Today at 2:45 PM All in favor harumph. Poryshkin | Con Chair - Today at 2:45 PM harumph Marilyn Mix - Today at 2:45 PM harumph Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration - Today at 2:45 PM Harumph! DrGandalf - Today at 2:45 PM A small temporal warp there. Harumph! Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration - Today at 2:46 PM Small temporal warps are business as usual on the 'net Herveus | Con Ops - Today at 2:46 PM Thank you all for showing up today. See you in June. DrGandalf - Today at 2:51 PM And they all ride their electronic steeds into the sunset Yakira - Volunteers and Vendors - Today at 2:54 PM Sorry I wan't truly 'present' most of the meeting. Balticon is less than 6 weeks away and I'm trying to tie up loose ends. Especially since I landed in the hot seat unexpectedly. Herveus | Con Ops - Today at 3:00 PM Ouch!