The Thanksgiving Science Fiction Society held a general business meeting on 16 October 2021. The meeting was held online via Discord, with no in-person interaction aside from between folks who live together, due to the COVID-19 pandemic. All conversations took place via text chat in Discord. This is a quick-n-dirty Discord transcript of the TSFS General Business Meeting held on 16 October 2021, made on 17 October 2021 by Keith Lynch. All formatting has basically been lost. Meeting was scheduled to begin at 1 PM EDT. Conversations effectively begin at 12:56 PM. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- From: "Keith F. Lynch" Subject: Transcript of yesterday's TSFS meeting Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2021 17:49:15 -0400 (EDT) Welcome to #october-2021-business-meeting! This is the start of the #october-2021-business-meeting channel. September 26, 2021 Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration Saturday, 16 October 2021, 1300 (1pm) Easterm time. October 16, 2021 Marilyn Mix | Website -- 10/16/2021 at 12:38 PM I will be joining late. I have to clear the leaves off my lawn before the rain. Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration -- 10/16/2021 at 12:56 PM Hello everyone Herveus | Con Ops -- 10/16/2021 at 12:58 PM Howdy! [12:59 PM] Agenda: Set next business meeting date Treasurer Con Chair Video Games Programming Publicity/Website/Zambia Registration Gaming Music Mythic Volunteers Vendors ConOps (edited) Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration -- 10/16/2021 at 12:59 PM I hope we have significantly more than three people here... Herveus | Con Ops pinned a message to this channel. See all pinned messages . -- 10/16/2021 at 12:59 PM Keith Lynch -- 10/16/2021 at 1:00 PM I can't help my much, as I'm only one person. Poryshkin | Con Chair -- 10/16/2021 at 1:00 PM Let's switch Con Chair & Treasurer, since that's easier to deal with. Herveus | Con Ops -- 10/16/2021 at 1:00 PM Sure. Poryshkin | Con Chair -- 10/16/2021 at 1:00 PM Marilyn will be here later, she said Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration -- 10/16/2021 at 1:01 PM Each of "us" is only one person, save the rare instance where two are looking at the same screen (edited) [1:01 PM] and I too registered that Marilyn will be late DrGandalf -- 10/16/2021 at 1:02 PM Yo ho ho Poryshkin | Con Chair -- 10/16/2021 at 1:02 PM Stay away from MY rum! Herveus | Con Ops -- 10/16/2021 at 1:02 PM grabs his bottle of Navy Rum @DrGandalf Yo ho ho Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration -- 10/16/2021 at 1:03 PM Did you bring enough rum for all of us? [1:04 PM] Our rum supply here is sadly short. This needs to be fixed before the family descends for Thanksgiving. Poryshkin | Con Chair -- 10/16/2021 at 1:04 PM HOld on, handling a phone call from Crystal, she's trying to get into the server DrGandalf -- 10/16/2021 at 1:06 PM No rum, by gum 1 Poryshkin | Con Chair -- 10/16/2021 at 1:06 PM You, and the Salvation Army Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration -- 10/16/2021 at 1:07 PM Lack of rum is why there's no Salvation Navy. 1 DrGandalf -- 10/16/2021 at 1:08 PM FYI, I will need to leave shortly after 2:30 Crystal Paul -- 10/16/2021 at 1:08 PM i THOUGHT WE HAD A DRY CON SUITE. Poryshkin | Con Chair -- 10/16/2021 at 1:08 PM ...and now I have an e-mail from Fred Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration -- 10/16/2021 at 1:09 PM @Crystal Paul We do, but this isn't the con suite. Herveus | Con Ops -- 10/16/2021 at 1:09 PM OK. I call this meeting to order. [1:09 PM] ...in not-the-con-suite. 3 Poryshkin | Con Chair -- 10/16/2021 at 1:11 PM Had to issue an invite link by email, I can't find his Discord UN Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration -- 10/16/2021 at 1:12 PM Fred appears to have found the server now. Yay! (edited) Herveus | Con Ops -- 10/16/2021 at 1:12 PM Date of next business meeting... [1:13 PM] I'll assume for the nonce that we want to meet in November Poryshkin | Con Chair -- 10/16/2021 at 1:13 PM 13/14 November, just under two weeks befroe the con, if any? Keith Lynch -- 10/16/2021 at 1:13 PM Wasn't there supposed to be a meeting on the 24th of this month? Herveus | Con Ops -- 10/16/2021 at 1:14 PM I'm tied up on the 13th, but the 14th is doable. Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration -- 10/16/2021 at 1:14 PM 24th is a programming meeting IIRC 14th is better for me than the 13th. The 6/7 I cannot make at all. Poryshkin | Con Chair -- 10/16/2021 at 1:14 PM 24 October is programming meeting, yes. [1:15 PM] Eitehr one work for me. Herveus | Con Ops -- 10/16/2021 at 1:15 PM Any objection to 14 November (Sunday) at 1300? Poryshkin | Con Chair -- 10/16/2021 at 1:15 PM None here Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration -- 10/16/2021 at 1:15 PM No objection here Crystal Paul -- 10/16/2021 at 1:15 PM Fine with me. Herveus | Con Ops -- 10/16/2021 at 1:15 PM So let it be written. [1:16 PM] Channel created. 1 [1:16 PM] Treasurer, then Con Chair. Poryshkin | Con Chair -- 10/16/2021 at 1:16 PM I love how easy that is. [1:17 PM] So, we have $9668.04 in the various accounts. Upcoming expenses: [1:19 PM] storage space & PO Box rental. We have not yes paid a deposit for the Delta Hunt Valley contract. WE have paid ASCAP fee for the year, we wouldn't need event insurance, for this year if we had a virtual convention, and we have not received a return on deposit fromt eh contract from Lord Baltimore. [1:20 PM] I'm not really sure how many/few memberships we've gotten in lately-focusing on contract & staffing & programming issues instead. Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration -- 10/16/2021 at 1:20 PM If I may ask, how much is he storage rent? I am familiar with the ballpark for PO box rentals (I paid $225 for a 6x6 in Chantilly for one year 2021-22). Poryshkin | Con Chair -- 10/16/2021 at 1:21 PM I do know a couple of t-shirt sales were made at Capclave. [1:21 PM] HOld on, I have a recent bill/receipt, it's something like $159? [1:21 PM] $154.00 Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration -- 10/16/2021 at 1:22 PM Wow, cheaper than our 10x15 in Chantilly (after they jacked out rent by EIGHTY per cent two months ago) DrGandalf -- 10/16/2021 at 1:22 PM That's annual? Poryshkin | Con Chair -- 10/16/2021 at 1:23 PM Monthly Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration -- 10/16/2021 at 1:23 PM I'm guessing that $154 is per month for the storage unit DrGandalf -- 10/16/2021 at 1:23 PM I can hope Poryshkin | Con Chair -- 10/16/2021 at 1:23 PM PO Box is annual, and I'd have to dig out a bill for that to remember the exact amount It is n the same range, but might be as high as $200/yr Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration -- 10/16/2021 at 1:24 PM $200 is in the right ballpack for the PO box, anyway. [1:25 PM] Do you expect the deposit for the Hunt Valley to be about the same as the deposit we expect to get back from the Lord Baltimore? Keith Lynch -- 10/16/2021 at 1:25 PM We're definitely going to Hunt Valley? The website doesn't say. Poryshkin | Con Chair -- 10/16/2021 at 1:25 PM Yes, both specify $1000 DrGandalf -- 10/16/2021 at 1:26 PM Do we have any further obligations to the Lord Baltimore? Poryshkin | Con Chair -- 10/16/2021 at 1:26 PM It doesn't say, because Marilyn was holding off until we had an actual signed contract. 1 [1:26 PM] None DrGandalf -- 10/16/2021 at 1:26 PM Yay Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration -- 10/16/2021 at 1:27 PM For the record, the aforementioned contract with the Hunt Valley is for 2022. Poryshkin | Con Chair -- 10/16/2021 at 1:27 PM Exactly. [1:27 PM] Any other treasurer-related questions? Keith Lynch -- 10/16/2021 at 1:27 PM Oh. Where are we this year? DrGandalf -- 10/16/2021 at 1:28 PM The question of the hour Herveus | Con Ops -- 10/16/2021 at 1:28 PM Which is why Con Chair is up next. Poryshkin | Con Chair -- 10/16/2021 at 1:28 PM WE are either cancelling altogether, or mooving on-line again this year. That's largely what this meeting is about. Keith Lynch -- 10/16/2021 at 1:28 PM Sorry for asking out of turn. Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration -- 10/16/2021 at 1:28 PM That makes for a nice segue into the Con Chair segment of this meeting, doesn't it Herveus | Con Ops -- 10/16/2021 at 1:28 PM Fair question, Keith. Poryshkin | Con Chair -- 10/16/2021 at 1:29 PM Which is exactly why I asked for the two reports to be reversed...so. [1:30 PM] Elspeth, Yakira, Fred & I held a meeting with the delta Hunt Valley (after an earlier subset held a meeting with Hotel Monaco): Hunt Valley extended us two very nice contracts for both this year, and 2022. I was about to sign then, when... [1:30 PM] The head of Mythic programming had another medical issue that sent her to the hospital, and regretfully had to bow out. [1:31 PM] That's when I said that with hotel & staffing issues, we just couldn't really do an in-person convention this year, as hard as we tried. [1:32 PM] And I'd like to thank again, Yakira & Elspeth for their help in putting in a bunch of last-minute work on the contract negotiations. [1:32 PM] So, to sum up the situation: [1:33 PM] Against the idea of having an online convention this year: [1:34 PM] 1. We are still having to do a bunch of last-minute programming. This was because I found out that several of my e-mails weren't going to the proper places. [1:34 PM] And also, due to illness issues among many of the staff, forcing us to do a lesser job than we would hav eliked. [1:35 PM] 2. A lot of the membership just havne't gotten the word about all of this. [1:35 PM] 3. A lot of the staff have had to bow out altogether. [1:36 PM] On the other side, issues in favor of having an on-line convention this year [1:36 PM] 1. Well, we've done this before, and have learned lessons about how to do it better than last year. [1:36 PM] 2. Con continuity is a thing [1:37 PM] 3. I have managed to contact people to pick up Mythic programming, and while video programming is still out for this year, we can bring it back for 2022. [1:38 PM] 4. The Guest of Honor is willing to deal with an on-line convention, and has accepted a re-invite to be GoH for 2022. [1:39 PM] 5. There are people who were willing to step up for online last year, and would be willing to do so again for this year. [1:40 PM] 6. Music programming, such an important part of the convention, can be done online, as well. Crystal is talking to various people about this, we have discussed an outline schedule, etc. DrGandalf -- 10/16/2021 at 1:40 PM What are the financial implications of holding it online? Any expenses other than Zoom costs? Poryshkin | Con Chair -- 10/16/2021 at 1:41 PM Yes, in fact: if we were to do an online convention, I would really want a physical program book, to be mailed out to the members. This would involve printing & smailing expenses. DrGandalf -- 10/16/2021 at 1:43 PM Did we charge last year? Poryshkin | Con Chair -- 10/16/2021 at 1:43 PM Not only would a physical program book make us look a lot less of a fly-by-night operation, it would give us the opportunity to fulfill ad exchanges with other conventions-we're dropping the ball on this otherwise. Crystal Paul -- 10/16/2021 at 1:43 PM Would a 2021 program book really need need to be physical? W hat about emailing it to attendees as a PDF? Poryshkin | Con Chair -- 10/16/2021 at 1:43 PM But it does lead to a question for Herveus: what problems would that pose for you? Herveus | Con Ops -- 10/16/2021 at 1:44 PM Timing gets tight. [1:44 PM] In the past, we would have already gone to press. Marilyn Mix | Website -- 10/16/2021 at 1:45 PM Make it a souvenir book and don't worry about timing? Herveus | Con Ops -- 10/16/2021 at 1:45 PM If we don't obsess about trying to get it to people before the convention, that gives some slack. Emailing a PDF will always be an option. Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration -- 10/16/2021 at 1:45 PM Snail mail is being a major PitA right now. Here in my parents' neighbprhood, there has been no mail for FOUR DAYS. As in, no outgoing mail has been picked up, and no mail has been delivered. No mail truck AT ALL. (edited) Poryshkin | Con Chair -- 10/16/2021 at 1:45 PM Crystal: yes, it could, but a physical book can serve as a souvenier/reminder throughout the year that we really do exist, and IMHO, get more attention for 2022 than would a pdf. If however, it's a huge problem for Herveus, or the printing/mailing costs are a big obstastacle, then I'm not adverse to a mailed .pef. I just prefer physical. Herveus | Con Ops -- 10/16/2021 at 1:46 PM We can do both. Poryshkin | Con Chair -- 10/16/2021 at 1:46 PM OH, I'm not talking at all about getting it to people before the convention. Sorry for that bit of minor confusion. Keith Lynch -- 10/16/2021 at 1:46 PM Does it help if it's taken to a major post office rathe than waiting for pickup? Crystal Paul -- 10/16/2021 at 1:47 PM @Keith: Possibly. Poryshkin | Con Chair -- 10/16/2021 at 1:47 PM Good question: anyone know? Herveus | Con Ops -- 10/16/2021 at 1:47 PM I'll get moving on the setup. Words from the Con Chair and a blurb on the GoH will be needed. Poryshkin | Con Chair -- 10/16/2021 at 1:47 PM Naturally. Keith Lynch -- 10/16/2021 at 1:47 PM Coincidentally, today I learned that UPS is also very slow. Herveus | Con Ops -- 10/16/2021 at 1:48 PM Media mail will be our friend on postage. Marilyn Mix | Website -- 10/16/2021 at 1:48 PM Given the budget situation, I think people would prefer a digital copy. I can put it on the website too Poryshkin | Con Chair -- 10/16/2021 at 1:48 PM Are there other questions about online vs canceling altogether? Keith Lynch -- 10/16/2021 at 1:48 PM Yes on the website; some of us don't do PDF attachments. DrGandalf -- 10/16/2021 at 1:48 PM If you take it to the Post office, you skip the pickup step, and you know it gets in the system Marilyn Mix | Website -- 10/16/2021 at 1:48 PM Going out to finish the mowing. Keith Lynch -- 10/16/2021 at 1:49 PM Good luck on the mowing. It's just gotten very dark and ominous here in Merrifield. Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration -- 10/16/2021 at 1:50 PM So, if timing of hardcopy programs is not an issue, what would the expected cost range be for printing and media-mailing hard copies? Poryshkin | Con Chair -- 10/16/2021 at 1:51 PM Tha't the thing I dnt' know: Herveus, do you have a handle on this? Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration -- 10/16/2021 at 1:51 PM (I mean, yes the program still needs to "go to press" before the con, but only e-copy is necessary before T'giving.) (edited) Herveus | Con Ops -- 10/16/2021 at 1:52 PM It looks like media mail bottoms out at $3.19. I have no idea what we've paid in the past for printing. Poryshkin | Con Chair -- 10/16/2021 at 1:52 PM $3.19/copy? Herveus | Con Ops -- 10/16/2021 at 1:52 PM Yes. DrGandalf -- 10/16/2021 at 1:54 PM That will add up fast Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration -- 10/16/2021 at 1:54 PM I'm going to spitball a figure of about $3.20 per copy for printing, based on 20 cents per two-sided sheet at 16 sheets. That's a 64-page program, so scale down accordingly for expected size. Crystal Paul -- 10/16/2021 at 1:55 PM From a green standpoint, it kinda bugs me for a virtual event to produce a physical program which will just be recycled almost immediately -- if it isn't just tossed in the trash. It doesn't seem a wise use of our funds & resources. Poryshkin | Con Chair -- 10/16/2021 at 1:55 PM So, we're talking about $700-$800 (just guessing) on number of physical copies. [1:56 PM] Hm, maybe Crystals right. Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration -- 10/16/2021 at 1:56 PM One option is to ask each attendee if they WANT a physical program delivered after the con, and only print as many as are asked. Keith Lynch -- 10/16/2021 at 1:56 PM Maybe a compromise. Ask everyone if they want a hardcopy, and only mail if it they say yes. Herveus | Con Ops -- 10/16/2021 at 1:56 PM We could offer a souvenir program by subscription and only print the desired amount. [1:56 PM] Drink Poryshkin | Con Chair -- 10/16/2021 at 1:56 PM grrr, I really can't type "...based on a number of 100+ of physical copies." Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration -- 10/16/2021 at 1:56 PM Poryshkin | Con Chair -- 10/16/2021 at 1:58 PM Well, three different people suggesting roughly the same idea. That seems to be a consensus. Yakira - Volunteers and Vendors -- 10/16/2021 at 1:58 PM I'm here, sorry I'm late, Just going to do a quick read through to catch up. Herveus | Con Ops -- 10/16/2021 at 2:00 PM I'm not seeing resistance to going on-line this year. Is it fair to say we have a consensus to do so? This is the time to raise objections. Poryshkin | Con Chair -- 10/16/2021 at 2:00 PM And now that Yakira is here, it seems a good time to mention: I know of at least one vendor we would have had if we had moved to a physical convention OUT OF downtown B-more. And two more we are losing by not having an in-person convention. But at least one we're likely to gain by having an on-line convention. Possibly two. That leads into staffing issues. DrGandalf -- 10/16/2021 at 2:01 PM As long as we can do a good job. A half assed con would not look good Crystal Paul -- 10/16/2021 at 2:01 PM @Heverus: With Discon bearing down on some of us, I'd be just as happy to skip Chessie this year. But if it happens, I'll do my bit. Poryshkin | Con Chair -- 10/16/2021 at 2:02 PM As mentioned, I seem to have found a replacement for a person to head up Mythic prog;ramming: this is one of a couple: and they also do vending. Mundane names of Jessica & John Weller. Herveus | Con Ops -- 10/16/2021 at 2:02 PM OK. Fair point. Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration -- 10/16/2021 at 2:02 PM It's fair to determine first if we do have the staffing to do a decent online convention. If we do, I am in favor of going online. Poryshkin | Con Chair -- 10/16/2021 at 2:03 PM OH, I'm skipping DISCON. Which reminds me, I have a cheaper-than-door price membership. But that's not really directly related to the matter at hand. Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration -- 10/16/2021 at 2:04 PM I am willing to do some programming-wrangling BEFORE the )hypothetical online) con. But DURING the con, the only thing I can wrangle is Registration. DrGandalf -- 10/16/2021 at 2:04 PM I have done lots of Zoom hosting. My position of program AV supplier and tender is not relevant to on-line Poryshkin | Con Chair -- 10/16/2021 at 2:04 PM I have contacted several of the presenters, and have received um, positive responses, what the term? They're not adverse to the idea of online. [2:05 PM] Agreement-in-principle! Taht's the term I'm looking for. [2:06 PM] And there are others I can contact about Zoom channels & hosting. [2:06 PM] Honestly, I thinwe're good on the staffing issues. Herveus | Con Ops -- 10/16/2021 at 2:07 PM I can do Zoom hosting as well. Last time, I was doing the Oddball thing, being a strategic reserve moderator who was not tapped. Yakira - Volunteers and Vendors -- 10/16/2021 at 2:08 PM last year I pulled a few folks from Discon programming and BSFS to help Zoom hosting, so I'm not worried about having enough folks for that. Herveus | Con Ops -- 10/16/2021 at 2:09 PM I'm not sure about my wife and vending. On-line could be a bit dicey for us. Poryshkin | Con Chair -- 10/16/2021 at 2:09 PM Understandable Herveus | Con Ops -- 10/16/2021 at 2:09 PM But if we can just roll our tables over to 2022, we'd be OK. Yakira - Volunteers and Vendors -- 10/16/2021 at 2:09 PM And the stuff I'm involved in, programming area head, is mostly settled down. It's now up to other folks in programming for Discon to get the schedule put together. So I've got a little more free time. Poryshkin | Con Chair -- 10/16/2021 at 2:10 PM Yeah, rollover for vendors, members, etc is a must. 1 [2:11 PM] The only real question as far as a virtual convention, is, do we want to charge a nominal fee, as we did last year (for those who didn't rollover or grab a membership for what was supposed to be this year ?) Herveus | Con Ops -- 10/16/2021 at 2:11 PM I read a sense that we have the staff to do it on-line, at least well enough to proceed. Poryshkin | Con Chair -- 10/16/2021 at 2:13 PM Excellent. Unless there are other objections, I'll call the the question, on whether or not we should do an online Chessiecon 2021. Herveus | Con Ops -- 10/16/2021 at 2:13 PM I think charging a nominal fee is fair. Add $10(?) for a souvenir progam book mailed after the con. Poryshkin | Con Chair -- 10/16/2021 at 2:14 PM Are you saying, for example, $10 nominal fee for the online, and if desired +$10 for souvenir program book? Herveus | Con Ops -- 10/16/2021 at 2:14 PM Yes. Poryshkin | Con Chair -- 10/16/2021 at 2:14 PM Ah! Crystal Paul -- 10/16/2021 at 2:14 PM I'd prefer Chessiecon skip this year, but will give it my full effort if we do go online. DrGandalf -- 10/16/2021 at 2:16 PM I can go either way. Will help if it happens, won't sulk if not. Poryshkin | Con Chair -- 10/16/2021 at 2:16 PM Crystal: are you adverse to the idea of me trying to find a last-minute replacement for heading up Music for an online 2021? Crystal Paul -- 10/16/2021 at 2:18 PM No, I'll do it if required Anyone else would need to start from scratch, &I've already done a lot of the spadework. Poryshkin | Con Chair -- 10/16/2021 at 2:18 PM OK, good to know Herveus | Con Ops -- 10/16/2021 at 2:19 PM There is a question called: Shall we do Chessiecon 2021 online (the alternative being no Chessiecon 2021)? Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration -- 10/16/2021 at 2:20 PM Aye. (Yes to online 2021) Poryshkin | Con Chair -- 10/16/2021 at 2:20 PM OK< then formal proposal: I make a motion that TSFS hold an online Chessiecon 2021, on Zoom & Discord, similar in structure to last year's convention, but allowing the Con Chair to tweak the Discord & Zoom servers/rooms as he sees necessary for more efficient conducting of the convention. Yakira - Volunteers and Vendors -- 10/16/2021 at 2:20 PM yes to online Herveus | Con Ops -- 10/16/2021 at 2:20 PM Do we have a second? Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration -- 10/16/2021 at 2:21 PM Second Herveus | Con Ops -- 10/16/2021 at 2:21 PM All in favor say aye. Poryshkin | Con Chair -- 10/16/2021 at 2:21 PM Aye Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration -- 10/16/2021 at 2:21 PM Aye Marilyn Mix | Website -- 10/16/2021 at 2:21 PM Aye DrGandalf -- 10/16/2021 at 2:21 PM [eye] Herveus | Con Ops -- 10/16/2021 at 2:21 PM Anyone opposed say nay. Crystal Paul -- 10/16/2021 at 2:21 PM My no vote stands, but no drama either way. [2:22 PM] If I'm the only no vote, just call it unanimous. Herveus | Con Ops -- 10/16/2021 at 2:22 PM It appears that the ayes have it. Crystal Paul -- 10/16/2021 at 2:22 PM So be it. Herveus | Con Ops -- 10/16/2021 at 2:23 PM You're objection does not cause drama nor cast you in an unfavorable light. [2:23 PM] It's a totally fair cop. Poryshkin | Con Chair -- 10/16/2021 at 2:24 PM OK, this means I'll be contacting various people I mentioned earlier about Esoteric programming, Zoom hosting, acquiring Zoom channels, oh, drawing up an actual grid schedule, etc in the next few days. Herveus | Con Ops -- 10/16/2021 at 2:24 PM So. With that settled, what else do we need to do here today? Obviously, programming and Zoom wrangling need to happen. There's a programming meeting next Sunday (24 Oct). Yakira - Volunteers and Vendors -- 10/16/2021 at 2:25 PM I will contact last year's zoom hosts to see if they're available this year. Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration -- 10/16/2021 at 2:25 PM I will have a quick report from Registration Herveus | Con Ops -- 10/16/2021 at 2:25 PM We'll need to update the web page now that things are settled. 2 [2:26 PM] Probably post on the FaceBook page, too. Poryshkin | Con Chair -- 10/16/2021 at 2:26 PM Indeed Herveus | Con Ops -- 10/16/2021 at 2:26 PM Anything else from Con Chair at this point? Poryshkin | Con Chair -- 10/16/2021 at 2:27 PM Not directly, but I note that the next thing on the agenda was video games. Crystal Paul -- 10/16/2021 at 2:27 PM Once I get a copy of the programming grid, I'll start asking musicians which slots they want. I should have a number of them filled by the 10/24 meeting. Herveus | Con Ops -- 10/16/2021 at 2:27 PM Well, everything after Con Chair was subject to wild reordering and ignoring as appropriate. [2:28 PM] Registration did have a report, so let's get that. Poryshkin | Con Chair -- 10/16/2021 at 2:28 PM Said of head department had communicated to me that she couln'dt handle an online convention, were we to go that route. And with the hotel confusion, she wouldn't have been able to put on a physical room for this year. That's all that I can really speak to. Herveus | Con Ops -- 10/16/2021 at 2:29 PM OK. That's on the record now. Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration -- 10/16/2021 at 2:29 PM Oh, that was w/r/t GoH? (edited) [2:30 PM] (sorry, I am in a maze of twisty little passges, all different, and no idea where we are now on the agenda) Herveus | Con Ops -- 10/16/2021 at 2:31 PM We're "after Con Chair" and may be simply skipping most of the remaining items. Go ahead and make your report, Dave Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration -- 10/16/2021 at 2:31 PM [2:34 PM] OK. 1. The official total for Registration is unchanged from last time. 2. Crystal, I had intended to call you, but life totally got in the way. Among other things, my dad wound up in the hospital for 2.5 weeks. He's out now. Crystal Paul -- 10/16/2021 at 2:35 PM @Dave: No worries on my end. Glad to hear your dad's doing better. Always good to hear from you in any case. Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration -- 10/16/2021 at 2:36 PM 3. We apparently receiveda check for two pre-reg's in the snailmail, and are in contact with them so they can decide if they want that money to apply to 2022. @Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration 3. We apparently receiveda check for two pre-reg's in the snailmail, and are in contact with them so they can decide if they want that money to apply to 2022. Poryshkin | Con Chair -- 10/16/2021 at 2:38 PM Ah! I got an email from them saying "yes, please" with inlcusion for this year-I thought they had CC'd you on that. Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration -- 10/16/2021 at 2:38 PM I haven't checked the relevant email since Thursday night -- I have been traveling. [2:39 PM] Multitasking, checking that inbox on my phone while I continue report here. [2:40 PM] 4. Did we ever reach a decision on whether there should be a fee for virtual 2021? (Not counting payments for hardcopy programs.) 5. If there is to be a fee (I suggest $5 if we truly must), I do have a question regarding the handful of people who hve pre-reg'd SINCE last year's con. Poryshkin | Con Chair -- 10/16/2021 at 2:40 PM Oooh, you're right, we didn't. Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration -- 10/16/2021 at 2:41 PM Should be backtrack to that? Herveus | Con Ops -- 10/16/2021 at 2:41 PM If we offer the program book for $10, that price point should leave us with a profit, and we can pitch the book as a way to support the con. 1 [2:42 PM] Maybe offer the book as the path to giving people a chance to support this year's edition. DrGandalf -- 10/16/2021 at 2:43 PM Balticon did not charge for the two virtual Balticons, instead relying on a GoFundMe for people to contribute, reminding them how much they are saving in travel and lodging costs. Collected a good amount. Poryshkin | Con Chair -- 10/16/2021 at 2:43 PM Well, let's see, our current membership is $55? We typically offer $45 for the next years's convention until the end of the current year. If we do offer a rollover at $45, and people have paid $55, then tht dovetails nicely. Or did some people register at $50? If so then that's awkward. If there are some who registered at $50, and some at $55, then it seems the best to me is to do a nominal $5 for this year, and simply offer the people who registered at $55 a $5 refund. Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration -- 10/16/2021 at 2:44 PM The program book notwithstanding... speaking for myself personally and NOT as Head of Registration, I would prefer there be no separate fee, but very promnently ask for donations. I suspect we would really like to have several grand more in the bank ahead of Chessiecon 2022. Crystal Paul -- 10/16/2021 at 2:44 PM @Poryshkin: sounds reasonable. Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration -- 10/16/2021 at 2:44 PM We have rollover memberships who paid $45, and some who paid $50, and some who paid $55. @Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration The program book notwithstanding... speaking for myself personally and NOT as Head of Registration, I would prefer there be no separate fee, but very promnently ask for donations. I suspect we would really like to have several grand more in the bank ahead of Chessiecon 2022. Poryshkin | Con Chair -- 10/16/2021 at 2:44 PM I am not going to disagree with the last statement. Herveus | Con Ops -- 10/16/2021 at 2:44 PM Can we combine a GoFundMe campaign with a "donate $10 or more and get a souvenir program book"? Marilyn Mix | Website -- 10/16/2021 at 2:44 PM I agree with doing this on a donation basis. Poryshkin | Con Chair -- 10/16/2021 at 2:45 PM I was intending to raise a crowdfunding effort as a separate issue, actually. Yakira - Volunteers and Vendors -- 10/16/2021 at 2:45 PM I also agree on donation/crowdfunding. [2:46 PM] I also don't feel that starting the $5 refund train is worth the time and effort to set it up. Let's just not go there. Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration -- 10/16/2021 at 2:46 PM My opinion is that I'd like to have more people, and as few barriers to entry as possible, for virtual Chessiecon 2021. Herveus | Con Ops -- 10/16/2021 at 2:46 PM We make Registration's life easier if we don't have a registration fee for the online con. If we can offer the book as a perk on the GoFundMe, then we sweeten the pot there. Poryshkin | Con Chair -- 10/16/2021 at 2:46 PM I'm getting a sense of the room that not doing nominal fee for virtual is best. But also that segues into crowdfunding. Yakira - Volunteers and Vendors -- 10/16/2021 at 2:47 PM I have some experience setting up the GoFundMe for Balticon last year. Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration -- 10/16/2021 at 2:47 PM I also agree with Yakira that trying to sort out refunds for folks who paid $55 is more trouble than it's worth, unless anyone actually asks. Herveus | Con Ops -- 10/16/2021 at 2:47 PM Does anyone disagree with that apparent consensus? Crystal Paul -- 10/16/2021 at 2:47 PM @Herveus: Nope. @Herveus | Con Ops Can we combine a GoFundMe campaign with a "donate $10 or more and get a souvenir program book"? DrGandalf -- 10/16/2021 at 2:47 PM Perhaps, but make it $15 and ask if people want the program book. No sense sending the book to everyone that contributes if they don't want it Herveus | Con Ops -- 10/16/2021 at 2:48 PM I will infer agreement from a lack of objections. [2:48 PM] And I don't object to DrG's proposal. DrGandalf -- 10/16/2021 at 2:49 PM But perhaps do sent the .pdf version Poryshkin | Con Chair -- 10/16/2021 at 2:49 PM Which means that we could offer various perks for crowdfunding: 1. The physical program book. 2. While we have always had the diea thta the mugs are really for volunteer gifts, we do have several boxes of such in storage. And we could order more (the whole idea of "it takes money to make money" sort of thing. 3. Likewise we have T-shirts. Yakira - Volunteers and Vendors -- 10/16/2021 at 2:50 PM Idea: $10-because you love us and want us to be here next year $15-Program book $25-some branded item like a teeshirt, and program book $50-some other branded item, and teeshirt, and program book Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration -- 10/16/2021 at 2:50 PM I have one volunteer mug, it's very nice, I don't have anywhere to PUT it right now... Herveus | Con Ops -- 10/16/2021 at 2:50 PM Sending the PDF out to "everyone" is a no-brainer to me. Poryshkin | Con Chair -- 10/16/2021 at 2:51 PM Would something like asking $10 for program book, $15 for t-shirt (we tend to sell them technically at $15.09 + $.91 tax, for total of $16), $20 for mug, and $25 for an all-up package work? Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration -- 10/16/2021 at 2:51 PM Oh yes. PDFs go to everyone who signs up for the v-con. I need to think on that a bit. (edited) DrGandalf -- 10/16/2021 at 2:51 PM No matter what reward tiers we have, we should ask if people actually want the premiums. They might just want to throw money at us. Herveus | Con Ops -- 10/16/2021 at 2:52 PM Yes. That. @DrGandalf No matter what reward tiers we have, we should ask if people actually want the premiums. They might just want to throw money at us. Poryshkin | Con Chair -- 10/16/2021 at 2:52 PM Agreed, actually @DrGandalf No matter what reward tiers we have, we should ask if people actually want the premiums. They might just want to throw money at us. Yakira - Volunteers and Vendors -- 10/16/2021 at 2:52 PM That's how we set up the Balticon gofundme. [2:52 PM] and there were a few folks who didn't want the premiums Herveus | Con Ops -- 10/16/2021 at 2:53 PM Well, then...it looks like we have a pretty concrete proposal for a GoFundMe. Shall we make it official? Crystal Paul -- 10/16/2021 at 2:53 PM @Poryskin: Don't forget to allow for our postage costs. I'd propose raising those rates by $5. Poryshkin | Con Chair -- 10/16/2021 at 2:53 PM Yakira_I'll want to ask some details after the meeting about the GFM or other crowdfunding thing. Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration -- 10/16/2021 at 2:53 PM I'm going to make a formal proposal here... Yakira - Volunteers and Vendors -- 10/16/2021 at 2:53 PM We should set up a smaller committee to put the premiums together. We need to look at who will be printing and handling distribution, and the cost of the items, before we set final pricing. @Crystal Paul @Poryskin: Don't forget to allow for our postage costs. I'd propose raising those rates by $5. Poryshkin | Con Chair -- 10/16/2021 at 2:53 PM I'm not adverse to that idea, I was truly taking a WAG at funding levels. Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration -- 10/16/2021 at 2:54 PM Moved, that we set up a GoFundMe for crowdfunding Chessiecon going forward. Tchotchke levels to be determined later. Poryshkin | Con Chair -- 10/16/2021 at 2:54 PM second Crystal Paul -- 10/16/2021 at 2:54 PM Aye. Yakira - Volunteers and Vendors -- 10/16/2021 at 2:54 PM My funding levels were not a WAG, they came from the research we did for Balticon DrGandalf -- 10/16/2021 at 2:54 PM Make sure we get to keep a significant amount of each contribution, or its not worth our bother Poryshkin | Con Chair -- 10/16/2021 at 2:54 PM That's one of the questions I had Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration -- 10/16/2021 at 2:54 PM This is why I made the motion I did. @Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration Moved, that we set up a GoFundMe for crowdfunding Chessiecon going forward. Tchotchke levels to be determined later. DrGandalf -- 10/16/2021 at 2:55 PM 2[degree sign] 1 Herveus | Con Ops -- 10/16/2021 at 2:55 PM We have a motion and a second. All in favor say aye. Those opposed say nay. Yakira - Volunteers and Vendors -- 10/16/2021 at 2:55 PM call the vote Poryshkin | Con Chair -- 10/16/2021 at 2:55 PM Aye Yakira - Volunteers and Vendors -- 10/16/2021 at 2:55 PM aye Crystal Paul -- 10/16/2021 at 2:55 PM Aye. Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration -- 10/16/2021 at 2:55 PM Aye DrGandalf -- 10/16/2021 at 2:55 PM [eye] Marilyn Mix | Website -- 10/16/2021 at 2:55 PM Aye Herveus | Con Ops -- 10/16/2021 at 2:56 PM The ayes have it. [2:56 PM] Looking over the agenda, I think we've heard from programming unless there is more to say. Meeting next Sunday. [2:57 PM] Music seems to be under control unless more needs said. [2:57 PM] Mythic is being dealt with. Crystal Paul -- 10/16/2021 at 2:57 PM @Poryshkin:Nooth at this time. Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration -- 10/16/2021 at 2:57 PM OK, having settled that there is to be a fundraierr, do we want to charge a fee for admission? Herveus | Con Ops -- 10/16/2021 at 2:58 PM Volunteers and Vendors should chime in if necessary. Yakira - Volunteers and Vendors -- 10/16/2021 at 2:58 PM so, programming meeting next Sunday. When and who do we want to talk about crowdfunding? Crystal Paul -- 10/16/2021 at 2:58 PM Soory, that was @Herveus. Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration -- 10/16/2021 at 2:58 PM (Other than that question, Reg does have one more question to ask.) Poryshkin | Con Chair -- 10/16/2021 at 2:58 PM Let's settle the fee question first. Herveus | Con Ops -- 10/16/2021 at 2:58 PM I think the consensus was congealing around no fee. Poryshkin | Con Chair -- 10/16/2021 at 2:58 PM Given thta we seem to have a good handle on crowdfunding, I'm withdrawing my objection to no fee for virtual Yakira - Volunteers and Vendors -- 10/16/2021 at 2:58 PM I move that we don't charge since we're talking crowdfunding. Herveus | Con Ops -- 10/16/2021 at 2:58 PM Am I mistaken? [2:59 PM] We have a motion. Poryshkin | Con Chair -- 10/16/2021 at 2:59 PM second Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration -- 10/16/2021 at 2:59 PM @Yakira - Volunteers and Vendors Second Herveus | Con Ops -- 10/16/2021 at 2:59 PM We have seconds. All in favor say aye. All opposed say nay. Poryshkin | Con Chair -- 10/16/2021 at 2:59 PM aye Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration -- 10/16/2021 at 2:59 PM Aye Marilyn Mix | Website -- 10/16/2021 at 2:59 PM Aye for no fee because we are crowdfunding Yakira - Volunteers and Vendors -- 10/16/2021 at 2:59 PM aye I also move that we don't muck around with $5 refunds unless someone asks DrGandalf -- 10/16/2021 at 2:59 PM - thought that was implicit in the previous motion Crystal Paul -- 10/16/2021 at 2:59 PM Iaye. Herveus | Con Ops -- 10/16/2021 at 3:00 PM The ayes have it. [3:00 PM] No fee. @Yakira - Volunteers and Vendors aye I also move that we don't muck around with $5 refunds unless someone asks Poryshkin | Con Chair -- 10/16/2021 at 3:00 PM The treasurer has no objections to that. Crystal Paul -- 10/16/2021 at 3:01 PM I need to bolt RSN for our flu shot appointments. Does anyone need me for anytin else? Herveus | Con Ops -- 10/16/2021 at 3:01 PM Go forth and get stabbed. Poryshkin | Con Chair -- 10/16/2021 at 3:01 PM I think you're good. Thanks for your imput, helps planning. Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration -- 10/16/2021 at 3:01 PM Registration will cogitate a day or two on how to handle sign-ups for v2021. If you have ideas, ping me! Herveus | Con Ops -- 10/16/2021 at 3:01 PM Last thing I see on the agenda is Website, etc. Crystal Paul -- 10/16/2021 at 3:01 PM OK, signing off. Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration -- 10/16/2021 at 3:01 PM @Crystal Paul Hopefully I can call later, but not right away. It's not a major issue. Herveus | Con Ops -- 10/16/2021 at 3:02 PM Clearly we need to update the website to reflect the new plan. Is there more to be said? Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration -- 10/16/2021 at 3:02 PM OK, Registration has one more thing... Herveus | Con Ops -- 10/16/2021 at 3:02 PM go Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration -- 10/16/2021 at 3:04 PM We do have a handful of people who pre-reg'd since last convention. We have yet to decide on a policy of how to handle these preregistrations. All REMAINING 2019 and 2020 pre-reg's were officially rolled over to "the next in-person convention" which we assumed at the time would be 2021, but well stuff happens. (edited) Herveus | Con Ops -- 10/16/2021 at 3:04 PM I think we should default to rolling them over, too. Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration -- 10/16/2021 at 3:05 PM But we DID ask the 2019 folks beforehand if they wanted a refund. Yakira - Volunteers and Vendors -- 10/16/2021 at 3:05 PM I say keep them rolling, unless they want a refund. Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration -- 10/16/2021 at 3:05 PM I think we got one refund request. Maybe two. DrGandalf -- 10/16/2021 at 3:06 PM I would just roll over unless refund is requested (edited) Herveus | Con Ops -- 10/16/2021 at 3:06 PM Asking them is good. Poryshkin | Con Chair -- 10/16/2021 at 3:06 PM OH, yes, we would be honor-bound (and possibly legally-bound) to offer the same thing: rollover or refund. Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration -- 10/16/2021 at 3:06 PM The thing is, should I in fact send an email to the folks who were new registrants for 2021 (NOT rollovers), and ask then the refund-or-rollover question? Poryshkin | Con Chair -- 10/16/2021 at 3:06 PM But I am in agreement with Yakira, not worry about membership pricing difference. Marilyn Mix | Website -- 10/16/2021 at 3:07 PM We need to send an email to all preregistered announcing the change to virtual and giving an option for refund or rollover. Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration -- 10/16/2021 at 3:07 PM By "all preregistered" are you including the rollovers from 2019/2020? They already had a chance. Poryshkin | Con Chair -- 10/16/2021 at 3:08 PM I think we're covered if we just ask the new registrants. Marilyn Mix | Website -- 10/16/2021 at 3:08 PM Yes. They might change their mind with yet another postponement Poryshkin | Con Chair -- 10/16/2021 at 3:08 PM IMNAL Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration -- 10/16/2021 at 3:08 PM (Bear in mind that this involves a fair bit of grunt work on Registration's , i.e. my, part.) @Marilyn Mix | Website Yes. They might change their mind with yet another postponement Poryshkin | Con Chair -- 10/16/2021 at 3:09 PM Grrr, I don't like it, but I agree, it's a fair point-you're not wrong here. DrGandalf -- 10/16/2021 at 3:09 PM I would word it to say we will roll it over unless a refund is requested. Herveus | Con Ops -- 10/16/2021 at 3:09 PM Ask the new registrations; then we broadcast the new plan to everyone. Make people decide to ask for a refund if they've already assented to rollover. Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration -- 10/16/2021 at 3:09 PM I am officially asking the Con Chair, or delegate thereof, to write the basic wording for the letter. Keith Lynch -- 10/16/2021 at 3:10 PM Did the previous offers give "roll over to 2021" or "... to our next in-person convention"? Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration -- 10/16/2021 at 3:11 PM @Keith Lynch Honestly, that depends on when the offer was made. The initial thing was to roll 2019 to 2020, after the 2019 hotel debacle. Have they torn down that building yet? Herveus | Con Ops -- 10/16/2021 at 3:11 PM I forgot to look when I went by a few weeks ago. Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration -- 10/16/2021 at 3:11 PM And then pandemic happened. [3:12 PM] I went by a month or so ago but it was night, and dark. Herveus | Con Ops -- 10/16/2021 at 3:13 PM OK. So Registration would like Con Chair to provide the wording for the letter we send out to registrants. [3:14 PM] Publicity. What else will we be doing to spread the word about the new plan. Poryshkin | Con Chair -- 10/16/2021 at 3:15 PM I've been trying to get the word out on Social Media, contacting other conventions, talking to guests/potential guests, etc Herveus | Con Ops -- 10/16/2021 at 3:15 PM OK. And that's something all of us can be doing as we are able. Marilyn Mix | Website -- 10/16/2021 at 3:15 PM We should send an announcement to BSFS general and any list that WSFA has Poryshkin | Con Chair -- 10/16/2021 at 3:16 PM Yes, as a WSFA member, I think I can also post on Capclave's FB page. Yakira - Volunteers and Vendors -- 10/16/2021 at 3:16 PM I can send notices to BSFS (edited) Marilyn Mix | Website -- 10/16/2021 at 3:17 PM I will update the website today. I will need words. @Marilyn Mix | Website We should send an announcement to BSFS general and any list that WSFA has Keith Lynch -- 10/16/2021 at 3:18 PM Note that WSFA has two email lists for ugly political reasons. Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration -- 10/16/2021 at 3:18 PM (Because fan politics never happens...) (edited) Poryshkin | Con Chair -- 10/16/2021 at 3:19 PM Nitwit! Oddment! Blubber! Tweak! 1 Herveus | Con Ops -- 10/16/2021 at 3:19 PM OK. I think I've exhausted the agenda. That tells me that a motion to adjourn would be appropriate. @Marilyn Mix | Website I will update the website today. I will need words. Poryshkin | Con Chair -- 10/16/2021 at 3:19 PM I'll get you a suggested wording this evening. Keith Lynch -- 10/16/2021 at 3:19 PM I have a question about '22: [3:20 PM] Why HV rather than LB? Presumably the quarantines will be over by then. [3:20 PM] I can email PRSFS, or Fred can. Poryshkin | Con Chair -- 10/16/2021 at 3:20 PM 1) WE thought the quarantines would be over by this year. Didnt' happen. [3:21 PM] 2. The parking issues is quite a bit easier at the HV. Keith Lynch -- 10/16/2021 at 3:21 PM Maybe move the con to Montgomery County, which is 99% vaxed, unlike rest of MD. [3:22 PM] And I can also post to rasff. Poryshkin | Con Chair -- 10/16/2021 at 3:22 PM 3. Largely due to parking issue (but I think there's an undertone of certain, shall we say, demographics-my personal bias, nothing explicit) we can bring back several regular vendors. [3:23 PM] We talked to Several hotels in this county. One was closed ("temporarily") another wanted $20k just for function space, the third was maybe acceptable, but the HV's proposal was a better deal. Herveus | Con Ops -- 10/16/2021 at 3:26 PM OK. Does that answer your question, Keith? [3:26 PM] Once again, I'm ready to entertain a motion to adjourn. Poryshkin | Con Chair -- 10/16/2021 at 3:26 PM I move we adjourn Herveus | Con Ops -- 10/16/2021 at 3:27 PM no second? DrGandalf -- 10/16/2021 at 3:27 PM 2[degree sign] Herveus | Con Ops -- 10/16/2021 at 3:27 PM all in favor harumph. Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration -- 10/16/2021 at 3:28 PM Harumph! DrGandalf -- 10/16/2021 at 3:28 PM Harumph. (cough) Ha! Poryshkin | Con Chair -- 10/16/2021 at 3:28 PM Harumph Herveus | Con Ops -- 10/16/2021 at 3:29 PM Thank you all for your time. We are adjounred. Next meeting Nov 14 (programming next sunday). Yakira - Volunteers and Vendors -- 10/16/2021 at 3:29 PM harumph Poryshkin | Con Chair -- 10/16/2021 at 3:29 PM Note: that's going to end up being on Zoom (easier for some other people involved) Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration -- 10/16/2021 at 3:29 PM Drop a link to the Zoom meeting please? Yakira - Volunteers and Vendors -- 10/16/2021 at 3:30 PM I'll drop the link in a minute, I've got to get it from the BSFS zoom accounts Poryshkin | Con Chair -- 10/16/2021 at 3:31 PM I may host or we might be able to use Balticon's, if that's not occupied-so either me or Yakira. [3:32 PM] Ah! OK, well that answers that question. Also, Yakira, please promulgate the link on the staff mailing list, I think there's one or two people on the list that aren't in the meeting, they may want ot hav einput. Keith Lynch -- 10/16/2021 at 3:33 PM I will probably be unable to attend the programming meeting, as it conflicts with the first used book sale since the pandemic began. 1 [3:33 PM] I will forward a transcript of today's meeting to Damont, and anyone else who wants it, but I have no way to do so with Zoom meetings. Yakira - Volunteers and Vendors -- 10/16/2021 at 3:34 PM what is the time of next week's programming meeting? Dave/Evan(damont) | Registration -- 10/16/2021 at 3:34 PM Hopefully not before 13:00 (1 pm) Poryshkin | Con Chair -- 10/16/2021 at 3:35 PM 24 October/1330 (1:30pm) 1 Yakira - Volunteers and Vendors -- 10/16/2021 at 3:36 PM sent to Staff Discuss email Poryshkin | Con Chair -- 10/16/2021 at 3:36 PM ty 1 [3:36 PM] I'm going afk for phud. Marilyn Mix | Website -- 10/16/2021 at 3:37 PM @Poryshkin | Con Chair you'll let Danielle know about our decision today? Yakira - Volunteers and Vendors -- 10/16/2021 at 3:37 PM I'm off to get some homework done and maybe get some housework done too. @Marilyn Mix | Website @Poryshkin | Con Chair you'll let Danielle know about our decision today? Poryshkin | Con Chair -- 10/16/2021 at 3:38 PM yes @Yakira - Volunteers and Vendors I'm off to get some homework done and maybe get some housework done too. DrGandalf -- 10/16/2021 at 3:47 PM Funny how homework and housework are such different things @DrGandalf Yakira - Volunteers and Vendors -- 10/16/2021 at 3:48 PM Yup, and neither of them are any fun.